שומו שמים מעיאר קאנדידאט פון ק"י א ציוני

When Vaad HaKirya bought Ace Farm the Alliance mailed out a booklet telling us that they planned to buy it first. They wrote that they saw Siatoh D'Shmaiyeh in every move they made. Until the last minute when Maaseh Soton Hitzliach and they lost it!

An Alliance member told me that it happened again. Except that this time Siatoh D'Shmaiyeh came together with Maaseh Soton.

This is what he said: "Banda's letter is the Maaseh Soton, and the mistake that the Alliance made with the Banda's petitions was the ultimate Siatoh D'Shmaiyeh!"

He continued: "Even you can't deny that the Rebbe ZU"O watched over us and prevented a Tzoiny from running as our candidate for mayor of His Shtetel."

He didn't say it straight out, but he did hint that the Alliance can no longer support him for mayor. סשמאל]

Bibi was there?
Fantastic! So who is a Tzoiny Banda or Felberman

What was Jacob Banda thinking when he posted this flier? Wasn't he concerned that his Satmar friends would be upset?
And couldn't he get a Vice President to sign it?

It seems that to him being the President of the Diamond Club is the most important thing in his life. More important even the the Rebbe ZU"O's Shitoh!

Really?

He cancelled the Yom Hoatzumis party?

Can you post the document?

The "President" of the Diamond Dealers Club never passes up an opportunity to sign his name on Diamonmd Dealers Club Stationary, so where is it?

And, as a Satmar Chosid why did you write the name of that Tominah chogeh the way the Tzionisten say it?

I happen to have an cousin in who is a regular at the DDC, being that even for me this was a little to much, I placed a phone call to him,

He recalled the incident, he was going to attend the rally himself, but didn't go when the bus was canceled by the president!

You have there an office, and there is 3-5 secretaries running technical arrangements.

Even if it's a true document, which I am not going to be suprised that it turnes out a outright fake, [like all other hydepark bs] He asked me; do you think technical arrangements are arranged by the president himself? It's his secretary, stupid.

You're all over the place. Make up your mind what your excuse is, is the whole thing a fake, or did he cancel it or is it his secretary's fault?

If it's a fake Mr. Banda should say so publicly, because there is a mitzvoh of "v'hiyisem NeKiim" people should not believe even for one second that he is a Tzoiny.

If it was true but he later cancelled it you should be able to produce a document with Mr. Banda's signature to that effect.

And, finally, if it's his secretary's fault why did the fool sign it before he read it?

I await some well thoughtout answers

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How typical, they fire away from all sides of their mouth, never bothering to think whether it makes any sense and the minute you question them they disappear.

But, to be honest, this time I can't blame them. They know that they're stuck with this Tzoiny and they have no way out. This letter is true, Tzikocht's cousin remembers and confirmed it. But besides this letter, what about the Israeli flag that he keeps in his office, will they blame that on his secretary too? What if she brought it A Tzeilim into the office would he have left it there too?

And let's not forget that the Rebbe said that Tzionism is worse then avodoh zoroh! And this man wants to be Mayor of the Rebbe's shtetel?

CHAS VE'SHOLOM!

I am not saying it's a fake, all I said was, that I would not be surprised if it turns out a fake. Hydepark has a history reports posted here needs to be verified.

However, my cousin does remember the incident, there was a poster about a bus, and he remembers that the president canceled it. He does not remember if on the original paper the president was signed or not.

Should Yankev Yoel let us know the true story? yes! But he is not bumming on hydepark like me and you, give him some time to reply!

And btw, the story with Yom Hu'atzmuet is true, he canceled that party too, and changed it to laa'g bu'omer.

Talking about fakes from the hydepark/wieder campaign, asked abe wieder, he was the first to fake Yankev Yoel Banda signature. He was going to get some time in prison, if not Yankve Yoel would have waived his rights!

First I want you to know that I respect you. Unlike your other friends, you didn't run and hide you stuck around. That's good.
Now, let's discuss this like mentchen.
Once you confirm that your cousin remembers it,it can no longer be a fake. Agreed?
Next, even if he did cancel the bus that doesn't make thing better! Maybe too few people signed up,and not because Mr. Banda did Teshuvoh. Or it's possible that his Satmar friends gave him a hard time.

But that's not the issue here and neither is Avrum Wieder. The real issue here is, that the Mayor of Kiryas Joel is the face of Satmar Chasidim and Chasidus for the world. Therefore,you want to select a man who has dedicated his life to everything the name "Satmar" represents. He should have shown a pattern of selfless dedication to Satmar's mosdos, to Satmar's image and to individuals in the community who are in need. He should also look like a Satmar Chusid should.

Let's take a look at the picture of Jacob Banda with his CAP & TIE, even if his background did fit the profile, is this the face of Satmar? I DON'T THINK SO!

Let's move along. Think for a moment what Satmar stands for. IN A WORD, it stands in oposition to Zionism and to everything connected with it.

Thanks for your compliments. They are always welcome!

First you decided that the mayor from Monroe is face of satmar, and then you try to figure if you like Mr. Banda's face, hmmmm

''Face of Satmar'' is a thier rabuniam dayunim and mechanchim and perhaps their ''in house'' rosh hakoel. Not there bus drivers, "own fire department", or for this matter their mayor.

All the man said was; there was a poster
1] He does not know it was from the mayor, the one posted on hydepark he said looks authentic, it could very well be original, but changed signatures. He is going to find out as much details possible about it. Hold your breath.
2] That the president himself canceled the bus and expressed rage using the DDC for political pro Israel propaganda. That does not say that he is the owner of DDC and is responsible for everything DDC is to do. And neither can he change furniture and fixtures if he decided he does not like it.
3] He is known to go as far as he possibly can do avoid associating the DDC with pro Israel messages [remember he can't stop 2000 members from doing what they want, organizing and supporting whatever they feel]
4] I spoke today to David Aryu Yakob, a chushiva and respected diamond dealer, a member in DDC. He has no idea about the poster thing, but he remembers that the president changed the dates of the party scheduled on Yum Atzmues, to Lag Bumer.
On a side note, he expressed his sincere gratitude for the way Yankev Yoel approached delicate issues [tznius, kashrus, and other issues] and changed many things to good. Besides for running the show like no one ever did before.

The rebbe z''l and bubevve rebbe z''l were encouraging their people to join the diamond business district and become members. If one can be the member, one can be the president. All a president is; is the ''shliach from the meshalchim'' no?? You are satmar [are you?] you should know!

And the way you elaborate and repeat your self that Yankev Yoel goes with a dashik when in business, MAN, GET A LIFE! it just goes to show your attitude. And that's in the same message were you write; quote ''But that's not the issue here and neither is Avrum Wieder''

And Yankev Yoel didn't support his people when he was doing well and able?
That's the lie of the day!

מורי ורבותי!

די חקירה צו יעקב יואל באנדא איז א ציוני אדער נישט איז דערווייל נאך נישט ארלעדיקט.

איך לייען וואס ביידע צדדים האבען געשריבען און איך בין שטארק אנטוישט. אלע רעדען נאך ווי בלינדע פערד און קיינער טראכט נישט אריין און דעם חומר הענין!

ווען ס'קומט ארויס א "פאשקעוויל" אקעגען איינעם איז טאקע די בעסטע עצה מ'זאל זיך נישט מאכען צוטוען דערפין.

מר באנדא איז דאך אבער דער קאנדידאט פון די אלייענס, און ווי מיר ווייסען אלע, שטייען זיי דאך אוועק ממש "כמטחוי קשת" פון דעם הארבען איסר פון התגרות באומות!

לאמער זיך דערמאנען וויפיל גדרים וסייגים זיי האבען געמאכט כדי חלילה נישט נכשל צו ווערען. ווען ס'האט זיך געטוען מיט דעם "פייפליין" האט די אלייענס געציטערט פאר דעם התגרות באומות "עד כדי כך" אז זיי האבען בעצאלט טייער אידיש געלט מודיע צו זיין פאר די גוים אז קרית יואל איז זיך מתגרה מיט זיי.

איינער האט זיי גראדע געפרעגט פארוואס דארף מען שוין אויסגעבען אזוי פיל געלט מ'קען דאך ווארטען ביז די גוים וועלען אליין געוואר ווערען, האבען זיי גיענטפערט מיט שטארק התלהבות ד'קדושה, חס ושלום! דער איסר איז אזוי הארב אז וועגען די מצוה פון "והייתם נקים" טאר מען נישט ווארטען קיין איין רגע!

רבותי, די מעשה ווייסט ווי שטארק די אלייענס איז נזהר פון התגרות באומות. חאטש מיר ווייסען אלע אז די גאנצע מעשה מיט דעם "פייפליין" איז, ווי די ריכטיגע תלמידי רבינו ריפען דאס, "התגרות באומות החדש" וואס דער אלייענס האט אליין אויסגעטראכט.

דארף מען פארשטיין וויאזוי שטייט די אלייענס מיט, מיט איינעם וואס האט "בשאט נפש" עובר געווען אויף דעם ריכטיכען און אמת'ן התגרות באומות דארך ריפען אידען שומרי תורה ומצות אנטיילנעמען אין א ראעלי פאר די ציוניסטישע מדינה?

כדי צו ווייזען פאר'ן עולם אז זייער ציל מיט ייגען "עדס" אין די גוישע צייטאנגען איז
נישט געווען סתם "התגרות בישראל" איז די אלייענס מחיוב מוחה צו זיין אויף דעם ביטערין חילול השם וואס זייער קאנדידאט האט גורם געווען מיט זיין התחברות
מיט די ציוניסטישע מדינה!!

אטוען

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וואס פשט פון עפענען אן עקסטערן אשכול?
davka

22:34 27/5/2005 - נשלח ב
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איך פארשטיי נישט דיין שאלה.

מ,רעדט דא פון דברים העומדים ברומו של עולם'

דעם יסוד היסודות פון אידישקייט

זאל איך עס באהאלטען?

ניין ניין און נאכאמאל ניין!

אטוען

0:29 28/5/2005 - נשלח ב
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בנדה

אתה באמת אוהב המדינה!!!

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