וואס גייט יעצט פאר אין קרית יואל??
תוקן על ידי מנהל_ניק ב- 01/08/2011 18:11:40
תוקן על ידי קל_וחומר ב- 01/08/2011 00:07:32
תוקן על ידי מנהל_ניק ב- 01/08/2011 18:11:54
ווילן נישט העלפן פאר די וויקטעמס פון די קרימענאלע KJ וויטריאל ווערטשאפט
תוקן על ידי 123news ב- 03/08/2011 16:39:41
עס איז ערגער פון רוסלאנד.
דאס איז פלעין קרימינאל !
מיך וואונדערט נאר פארוואס שלאפט מען?
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תוקן על ידי 123news ב- 03/08/2011 21:52:56
Group claims
civil rights were violated in Kiryas Joel
John Zwinck says the incident, which was captured on video,
began when Kiryas Joel Public Safety Director Moses Witrol
confronted the group on Sunday and asked for identification
because they looked "suspicious" !..........1
State police in Monroe say they were called to Kiryas Joel after the group refused to show Witrol any identification when they refused NYS Police on the reqwest of Moses Witriol arrested them
Police say Witrol claimed they were taking pictures of schools and government buildings.
Zwinck says they were only taking pictures of each other.
State police says the group was eventually let go and wasn't charged.
Calls placed by News 12 Hudson Valley to the Village of Kiryas Joel were not returned.
תוקן על ידי 123news ב- 04/08/2011 03:11:38
סארא חוצפה האט דער וויטריאל צו בעטן אידענטיפיקאציע איז ער א לעגאלע לאו אינפארסמענט אגענטור????????????
אויך הערט מען ווי דער פאליס זאגט אז ער דארף פיילן א קאמפלעין אין ווילידזש האל ווייל ער קען נישט אינוועסטיגעטן אנדערע פאליציי אגענטורן
איר הערט!!!!???????????? זייט ווען איז די פובליק סעפטי א פאליציי אגענטור ????
איך האלט אז מען זאל זיך קאנטאקטן מיט דעי גוים אין זיכער מאכן אז זיי פיילן א קאמפלעינט ביי די נויטיגע אינסטאנצן קעגן וויטריאל אין קעגן די סטעיט פאליציי
די שאלה איז נאר ווי לאנג דאס וועט נעמען.
Video of KJ standoff
posted on YouTube
Three young, non-Hasidic people strolling through all-Hasidic Kiryas Joel, apparently intent on grabbing lunch in an unfamiliar place, found themselves in a standoff with state troopers recently after refusing to show identification to Moses Witriol, Kiryas Joel's public safety director.
Their video recording of the encounter, later posted on YouTube, shows them in an escalating dispute as they indignantly asked why Witriol had stopped them in the first place and what right he had to demand identification. One man said Witriol had grabbed his arm. On the video, Witriol stands silently and takes notes as two increasingly exasperated troopers order the group to show their drivers' licenses or face charges of obstructing governmental administration.
One visitor was handcuffed and appeared destined for a trip to the nearby state police barracks in Monroe.
But troopers released all three without charges in the end
.
Community dissidents, who have lodged a series of complaints against Witriol's quasi-police force in a federal discrimination complaint against the village, have been circulating the video as fresh evidence of mistreatment.
Chris McKenna
תוקן על ידי 123news ב- 08/08/2011 05:26:07
After reading a NY Times story on Kiryas Joel, the Orange County town that's home base for the Ultra-Orthodox Satmar Hasidic Jews, a few non-Orthodox friends from Manhattan decided to pay the town a visit. Earlier this month they took a train to the nearest station and hiked five miles to the town, where they started snapping photos of some of the sights and attractions—like the air-conditioned bus stop! But it seems the locals don't take to kindly to Goy outsiders, and soon enough a private security force pulled up demanding identification. On Reddit, John Zwinck, a software engineer who lives in midtown Manhattan, describes how the situation quickly escalated:
<*>After a few minutes, a black Suburban rolls up in front of us. Two guys get out. One of them never speaks, but has a shirt that says Public Safety. The other is wearing traditional orthodox clothes: black pants, white shirt, black vest, and a yarmulke. We later learn his name is Moses. He immediately demands identification from all of us. I ask him why, and he says that he got a call for suspicious activity. I tell him we are just visiting on foot, and that we haven't taken any pictures of people. I tell my friends that I don't think they have to provide ID unless they want to. Moses says if we don't provide ID he will arrest us. I see this as ridiculous, and start walking again.A few moments later, someone grabs me from behind. I turn around, and Moses is holding my arm. I yell "assault, assault" just in case it's not clear to the few bystanders that it's not consensual. Moses eventually lets me go, and again I continue on my way, and my friends come along.
*--**But when they arrived at a local cafe to get some lunch, a State Trooper stopped them. Here's video of the incident, which ended with two hikers getting arrested for refusing to show their identification:
As you can see by the video, the officer tells them their being arrested for obstructing government administration, and explains that the "public safety director," Moses Witriol, had the right to forcibly detain Zwinck when he refused to show I.D. In the end, no charges were filed, but Zwinck did some digging and found that a federal lawsuit has been filed against Kiryas Joel, and specifically names Moses Witriol. The lawsuit [pdf] claims that "the affairs of its government are inherently infused by, and entangled, with religion such that its very existence as a municipality violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution."
תוקן על ידי zibala ב- 08/08/2011 22:50:45
Kiryas Joel, NY - No children were injured when a Bnai Yoel School bus reared a taxicab on Bakertown Road and Hamastik Way in the Village of Kiryas Joel Wednesday morning. Authorities said the cab was making a u-turn when the bus struck it injuring the driver and two passengers, all of whom were taken to an area hospital. (VIN)
By Chris Mckenna Times Herald-Record Published: 2:00 AM - 11/07/11
The Village of Kiryas Joel has sued the neighboring Town of Woodbury to dismantle its zoning, accusing it of discriminating against Hasidic Jews by not allowing dense housing in an area where the Hasidic community hopes to expand.
The lawsuit seeks to invalidate a comprehensive plan and two zoning laws that Woodbury trustees adopted in June after seven years of planning and demands by Kiryas Joel that high-density housing be permitted.
Also targeted is a 2010 law regulating religious buildings in Woodbury. The case is filed in state Supreme Court in Goshen.
Kiryas Joel's lawyers argue that zoning for large residential lots prevents Hasidic Jews from ''living and freely practicing their religion in Woodbury'' and thereby ''places an unreasonable burden on Kiryas Joel's housing stock, infrastructure, community services and community character.'' Joining the village and its officials in the lawsuit are five prongs of Vaad Hakiryah, the development arm of Kiryas Joel's main religious congregation. The organization, which owns 175 acres of undeveloped land in Woodbury, claims it has been prevented from building multifamily housing, synagogues and other typical features of a Hasidic community. The plaintiff's lawyers suggest that by blocking Kiryas Joel-style growth, Woodbury's zoning has hampered the lifestyle of Hasidic families who have settled outside Kiryas Joel in recent years. David and Rose Ungar, who bought a Woodbury home for $485,000 in 2006, complain in court papers that they're ''prohibited from living in a compact and walkable community in close proximity to the religious and cultural services provided in Kiryas Joel.'' Also named as a plaintiff is Kiryas Joel Public Safety Director Moses Witriol, who has lived in Woodbury since 2006 and lodged the same complaint as the Ungars. Housing density a key issue The underlying issue is Kiryas Joel's steady population growth and quest to expand. The village now has about 22,000 residents, and most of the available land in its 1.1 square miles has been developed. In addition to Vaad Hakiryah, various Hasidic investors own hundreds of acres of land around Kiryas Joel, awaiting development. Vaad Hakiryah's purchase of the 140-acre ACE Farm in 2004 set off jitters in neighboring communities about Kiryas Joel expanding. Not long afterward, new villages formed in Woodbury and Blooming Grove as a way to preserve their zoning. In the new lawsuit, Kiryas Joel's attorneys argue that Orange County planners supported the notion of denser housing in Woodbury by labeling the disputed territory a ''priority growth area.'' They also point out that a three-county study identified the need for hundreds of affordable housing units in Woodbury. The court papers claim that Woodbury rejected the idea of allowing high-density development by saying it would cause ''significant environmental impacts,'' but gave no evidence to support that conclusion. Woodbury's attorneys declined to respond to the case on Friday.
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