At 12:01 PM, Anonymous said…
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The man at the center of a melee on Tuesday night in Borough Park, Brooklyn, today criticized both the New York City police and the hundreds of Orthodox Jews who protested in the streets for hours after his arrest, even setting a police car on fire.
Arthur Schick, a 75-year-old caterer who was stopped by police on Tuesday for talking on his cellphone while driving, said he was not aware of the protest that ensued after police hauled him away until he was released from a holding cell at the 66th Precinct house hours later.
In an interview today in his home on East 17th Street in the Flatbush section of Brooklyn, Mr. Schick said both sides were wrong.
"The riots were 100 percent wrong," he said. "Protest is good, but it has to be done in a legal, proper and civil manner.
"I came to Borough Park in 1938," he said. "Such behavior is really uncalled for."
He said he had filed a complaint with the police department's internal affairs office for the way he was handled by the two officers who pulled him over, saying they had roughed him.
The police arrested two men in addition to Mr. Schick, but no serious injuries were reported.
At police headquarters today, Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly said he believed the police acted appropriately in the way they handled the matter on Tuesday night, when hundreds of people from the Hassidic Jewish community chanted protests, with some setting bonfires and igniting a police car as word spread that Mr. Schick was being mistreated.
"I believe the response was appropriate to the situation," Mr. Kelly said during a meeting with reporters and leaders from the Hasidic community at police headquarters in Manhattan. "I'm satisfied with the response."
He said two officers were assaulted during the confrontation, including Sgt. Angelo Russo, one of the arresting officers, after someone in the crowd attempted to pull him down during the arrest.
Another officer at the scene, who Mr. Kelly did not identify, was kicked by Chaim Appel, 37, Mr. Kelly said.
Mr. Appel, who faces an assault charge, is due to be arraigned today, a law enforcement official said.
Mr. Kelly identified the third man arrested as Chaim Gillig.
Mr. Schick complained of soreness in his hands today but seemed otherwise fine during the interview, and said he would be seeing a doctor about his injuries suffered when police forced him into a van after they arrested him.
He said the incident began around 6:30 p.m. when he was leaving Schick's Bakery, a neighborhood institution that he owned 40 years ago, after placing an order there for someone he knows.
He said he was driving down 47th Street in Borough Park, about to make a left turn, when "out of nowhere a police car appeared with lights."
Police later said they saw him talking on his cellphone even before he got into his car.
Mr. Schick said one officer approached him.
"He ran out of his car in a very hostile way," Mr. Schick said. "He said, 'Didn't you see my lights?' I said, 'No, I didn't see your lights.' "
The officer told him he had been using his cellphone while driving, which is against New York State law.
He aid the officer asked for his license and registration and insurance papers, which Mr. Schick said he provided. The officer went back to write him a ticket.
Mr. Schick said he then got out of his car to ask the officers for their names. He said one of the officers got out of his police car.
"He said, 'Get back to your car.' I said, 'Officer, can you give me your name and your partner's name?' "
He said the officer grabbed his own lapel and thrust badge towards Mr. Schick.
"He said, 'I'm officer Russo, can't you see it?' But he refused to give me his partner's name. I just said, 'Please give me the name of your partner.' I didn't scream at him. I didn't raise my voice," Mr. Schick said.
"Out of nowhere he started cuffing me," he said.
He said both officers began "pushing and shoving me."
Mr. Schick said a police van arrived shortly, and they asked him to get into it.
"It had a high step," he said. "I asked for help getting in. They wouldn't help me. Instead they pushed me into the seat of the van face down."
He said that by this point there were about 100 people watching and loudly commenting on what was happening.
He said that at the police precinct house, he was held in a room for about four hours, cuffed to a bar and with leg shackles. He said was held for about four hours until they finally let him go.
At a news conference in front of the precinct house, Assemblyman Dov Hikind and City Council Member Simcha Felder said they would ask for an investigation into how the police handled the matter.
But Mr. Hikind seemed to blame both sides for the escalating tension that culminated in the protests and fire.
"The behavior of hundreds of young people lighting fires, destroying trash cans, invading police cars, is inexcusable," he said. "We in the community will address that."
As for the police, he said that if officers had cooperated more with people in the community, the tensions would not have reached the level they did.
"Last night this police department was ineffective," he said.
| אלפים מתושביה החרדיים של בורו-פארק יצאו להפגנות, כדי למחות נגד מעצרו של אחד מתושבי השכונה | *-- _sTitle *|
אלפים מתושביה החרדיים של שכונת בורו-פארק שבברוקלין יצאו לרחובות ביום שלישי בערב להפגנת זעם, תוך שהם עוצרים את התנועה ומבעירים זבל בצמתים לאורך השדרה ה-16, כדי למחות נגד מעצרה של אישיות מכובדת מהקהילה. ההפגנה החלה בעקבות מעצר של ר' ארתור שיק, בן 75, שמספר שעות קודם לכן נעצר על-ידי שוטר תנועה, שטען כי שוחח בטלפון סלולרי בשעת נהיגה. השוטר טען, כי שיק סירב למסור את רישיון הנהיגה וביטוחי הרכב שלו, וכי הוא נעצר לאחר מאבק שניהל איתו. "הוא לא שומע טוב, הוא לא שמע מה השוטר אמר לו", טען להגנת שיק עד ראיה. "השוטר דחף אותו לרצפה והחל להכותו, ולאחר מכן השוטרים חבטו בי וברבים אחרים. אני רק עברתי במקום". אך השוטרים טוענים מנגד, כי כשניסו לעצור את שיק, אנשים אחרים הפריעו להליך המעצר. "הוא אדם מבוגר. הוא לא עשה כלום לאף אחד. למה התנהגו אליו בצורה אלימה שכזאת?" שאל אחד העסקנים החרדים, לאחר התפתחות המהומות. "השוטרים לא צודקים". אותו עסקן טוען שיחסי השוטרים והציבור החרדי טובים ביותר. "איני מבין מה גרם הערב לכל הדרמה הזאת". ובכל זאת השוטרים מכחישים שהתנהגו בצורה ברוטלית כלפי ארתור שיק. מר ווידוסקי, מבעלי קונדטוריית שיק'ס המפורסמת, אומר כי ראה את האירוע מבעד לחלון המאפיה, שהייתה שייכת בעבר לאמו של מר שיק. הוא טוען כי ראה את השוטר דוחף את חברו שיק, אותו הוא מכיר משנת 1960. "הם דחפו בכוחנות את ידו לאחורי גבו, על אף שזעק 'אני לא מתנגד, אני לא מתנגד', וזרקו אותו על רכבו בצורה בזויה לאדם מכובד ביותר בקהילה. אסור היה לנהוג בו בצורה בזויה שכזאת". מעצרו של שיק גרם לתסיסה בקרב הציבור, ומאות החלו להתגודד ולחסום את הרחובות בשדרה ה-16, באזור בו שיק נעצר. שני פחי זבל הובערו. כשניידת משטרה הגיעה לאזור, היא הוקפה במאות תושבים זועמים, והשוטר שנלכד בתוכה שיגר קריאת חרום, ברגע שחלון הניידת נשבר. כוח משטרתי גדול הוזנק לאזור, ועם הגעתו התפזר חלק גדול מהקהל במהירות, אך עדיין נשארו מספר קבוצות שהתגודדו בצידי הרחובות. משטרת ניו-יורק הזעיקה מסוקים, כדי להאיר את רחובות השכונה בתאורה חזקה. תושבים טוענים, כי זעם הקהל התפרץ בעקבות הגברת האכיפה באזור וחלוקת דוחות חניה ללא התחשבות, בחצי שנה אחרונה. "תגובת הקהל הגיעה בעקבות התמרמרות התושבים על כך ששוטרי התנועה בבורו-פארק מחלקים דוחות חניה למכביר וללא סבירות. ישנם שוטרים קבועים, המגיעים כל יום כדרך קבע. רצף כזה של ביקור יום יומי לא קיים במקומות אחרים". בשעה זו עצורים שלושה תושבים בתחנת המשטרה סניף 66: שיק ושניים מהתושבים שנאבקו בשוטרים. | |
At 2:56 PM, said…
I spoke to someone who was in the precinct when Esposito made the remarks. Unfortunately he lost himself and should have never made those remarks. He has been so good to all of us over the years. It is a big mistake for felder, Hikind and the others that he was pogeiyah in their kovod to step down. He should just apologize and everything will be fine.
http://vosizneias.blogspot.com/2006/04/new-york-ny-nypd-chief-of-department.html
NEW YORK, NY April 05, 2006 —Mayor Bloomberg says residents of Borough Park acted inappropriately by rioting after the arrest of an Orthodox Jewish man. But he says the Police Department will look into its handling of the incident. Two other men were arrested.
REPORTER: Meanwhile, as WNYC's Beth Fertig reports, residents of the Hasidic community claim police used aggressive tactics.
Pavel Loyman was working at the 16th Avenue hardware store last night when the riot broke out. He says he was among hundreds of people who saw Arthur Schick get roughed up by police after he was stopped for talking on a cell phone while driving.
LOYMAN: And you could hear women all around, they "uhhhh" it was nightmare you could hear these voices. So they force, they push him inside and of course people start screaming don't touch him he's an old guy it's not necessary to do like this.
REPORTER: Despite the crowd's angry reaction, Loyman claims the trash fire was set by teenagers who were not dressed in Hasidic clothing. Some residents say the community was already on edge because police have been issuing a lot of parking violations to Passover shoppers. .
| 4/5/2006, 4:37 p.m. ET
By TOM HAYS The Associated Press |
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NEW YORK (AP) — Police officials faced fallout on Wednesday from a street disturbance in an Orthodox Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn, including accusations that their department's highest-ranking uniformed officer flew into a rage and cursed out the crowd.
Assemblymen Dov Hikind said numerous civilian witnesses heard Chief of Department Joseph Esposito yell "F--- the Jews" and "F--- the community" while officers struggled to tame an unruly crowd Tuesday night in Borough Park. The politician and other community leaders were demanding an apology.
Esposito "lost it last night," said Hikind, an area Democrat. "He thought he was in the Wild West."
Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a Republican, said that, although officials would review the entire episode, "from what I can see the police department acted appropriately."
The department released a statement saying Esposito "acknowledged that in attempting to bring under control a chaotic situation in front of the 66th Precinct stationhouse last night he used inappropriate language in instructing police officers to 'Get these f---ing people out of here.'"
Hundreds of residents had stormed the streets amid accusations — later denied by police officials — that officers used excessive force in arresting a 75-year-old man after a routine traffic stop. Witnesses said police had shoved the man against a car.
The man, who was pulled over for talking on his cell phone while driving, resisted the officers during the stop and was arrested with two other people who meddled in the incident, police said.
As word of the arrests spread, angry protesters — many of them teenagers wearing traditional black suits and hats — flooded the streets and set small fires. Some surrounded the police station and chanted, "No Justice, no peace," before officers in riot gear were dispatched to disperse the crowd.
Hikind blamed the police.
"The behavior of the young people in the street was unfortunate, but it escalated because of the police," he said.
Of Esposito, the assemblyman said: "We don't want his head. We want an apology."
Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly insisted he had "total confidence" in the chief.
"Sometimes in a chaotic situation things may be said that people might regret in the future," Kelly said. "But he's an outstanding commander, and I think overall the situation was handled well."
The day after
תוקן על ידי - איןבעיה - 06/04/2006 8:09:21At the riots yesterday
Video clips from the Riot of Boro Park
If you have any Clips please e-mail to admin@jewishcenteronline.com
http://jewishcenteronline.com/gallery/browseimages.php?c=9
At 3:35 PM, VOS IZ NEIAS said…
Jason Horowitz is hitting the pavement in Borough Park today.
Here is his report:
In the storefront Yidel's Grocery on 12th Avenue between 48th and 50th streets in Borough Park,
there's a photo of a guy wearing a varsity jacket with a letter on it, no yarmulke, and he's about to light a bunch of posters on fire. All of these 13- and 14-year-old Orthodox kids are circled around him, eyes agog, looking pretty psyched.
In the neighborhood, the photo, and the amateur video from which it's taken, are in high demand. The idea is that opportunistic criminals who aren't orthodox Jews are responsible for much of the mayhem on Tuesday night.
Boro Park councilman Simcha Felder told The Politicker: "It is irrelevant to me." It was "inexcusable" that young people in his neighborhood watched and egged on the riot.
"I think there are a number of tapes floating around now," he said. But he also said he thought it unlikely they'd surface. Even if they do show non-Jews lighting fires at the riot, they also show large groups of young Orthodox men comporting themselves in a generally ungentlemanly manner
Someone with relations to one of our local Jewish politicians told me that not to long ago he was in the car with one of the politicians and a police officer stopped him for not wearing a seatbelt, after identifying themselves, the police officer did let him go.
And this is going on daily; I wonder if that's the law if you are a politician you don't have to follow the law.
Maybe I am in the wrong business
תוקן על ידי - y123y123 - 07/04/2006 0:40:53Joseph Esposito has called us F+++Jews what excuse is it that he was under pressure, and because he was under pressure he does not have to apologize.
The Jewish community of Boro Park are demanding an apology from Joseph Esposito, and if you don't know how to apologize I guess this job is not for you.
Questioned for the mayor of New York
If I go on the Street and I see a police arrest a 75 year old man which I have respect for him, and they handle him like a dog, what should I do.
Don't tell me that I should call 311 for an investigation, because what ever the police are going to say you going to believe them and not me
Should I at least let the police know that it's not appropriate to do that, or I am not allowed to talk to them because they are God's greatest gift
By the way what's the whole point of an investigation, the mayor himself said already that he does not see that the police or police commissioner did anything wrong,(I guess they are close friends)
I would like to see an investigation with people from our community involved (not our politicians), to make sure that the right investigation takes place
In the mayor's speech he only accused us for demonstrating, he did not accused the police commissioner for using dirty language, I think this itself needs a complete investigation
At 10:49 AM, Anonymous said…
The Young and the Restless Opinion Columnist
THE Orthodox Jews of Borough Park in Brooklyn lead a double life. They are at once an insular community, deliberately isolated from what many see as the corrupting force of the surrounding culture, and an integral and recognizable part of New York. That duality was on display last Tuesday, when protests erupted after an encounter between police officers and an Orthodox Jew who was stopped for talking on his cellphone while driving.
Of all the Jews in Brooklyn, about 37 percent call themselves Orthodox, and of all the neighborhoods in Brooklyn, none is a better known Orthodox heartland than Borough Park (or, as the locals spell it, Boro Park). The neighborhood, which took on a suburban character in the 1920's when rows of houses were built on tree-lined streets, has been transformed over the last 40 years from "suburb to shtetl," as the sociologist Egon Mayer put it.
The Hasidim and other ultra-Orthodox Jews make up a significant proportion of what seems to many outsiders an extraordinarily closed society, with its Yiddish vernacular and expressive Jewishness. which has more than 110 yeshivas, 240 synagogues and many Jewish specialty shops, and where the sexes are segregated to the greatest extent possible, they often you could feel that you are visiting another country.
Community leaders and most of the adults in the enclave know that they depend on the police to make their island in the city secure. They value their officers — even if they are certain that many have no understanding of the culture and society they protect. This is a profound change for a group that includes a great many children of Holocaust survivors as well as survivors themselves; in their collective memory, the police were often a part of the problem rather than a source of security. It is not surprising, therefore, that many of these older people, including the 75-year-old man at the center of the incident, were unwilling to condemn the police unequivocally.
Young people, born and raised in New York, were the ones who caused most of the hubbub last week, and for all the efforts their elders have made to insulate them from the surrounding culture, they've absorbed it. When they began yelling, "No justice, no peace," they were not quoting the Hebrew prophets or the Torah; they were echoing their African-American neighbors in the borough, who abhor what they perceive as disrespect from the police.
These young Orthodox Jews have learned how a beleaguered and threatened minority in this city can respond when it wants to rein in the police or the powerful. This Passover season, as the Jewish people celebrate their liberation from slavery, these youngsters wanted to express their liberation from what they saw as another too-powerful arm of tyranny — even if the problem was nothing more than a misunderstanding, rather than a return to the bondage of Egypt.
Their rabbis and elders must surely be concerned about this turn of events. More threatening than the incident with the police is the possibility that their children, the products of so much concern and education — the future of their community — may have become too much like the other New York, the one outside the enclave.
At 1:48 PM, said…
Shloma: according to this picture on top of your post, you were not right with an earlier post stating that non Jews sparked the riots, as you could see on that picture that you posted there, it was already dark when the non Jew started his fire, and here you see Orthodox Jews make fires when it is still daylight outside.
Therefor I think you should take down that post.
Received this by e-mail
Shame on you – self hating Jew!
What a Chutzpah!
Op-Ed piece by Lt. Jason Margolis President of NYPD Shomrim Society
titled Shame of Boro Park.
While racial slurs and epithets by decorated Police Officers are a far
removed from the moral equivalent of Nazi era oppression, it still is
an ugly form of Anti Semitism and must be decried as such.
Lt. Margolis there were no riots in Boro Park there was no mass
looting, destruction of property or personal injury, as most certainly would
have been the reaction in other minority communities in this city. The
misbehavior of two three individuals does not impeach the entire
community.
The crowd simply protested police brutality in a relatively peaceful
manner and the egotistical cops over reacted.
Note:
Jason Margolis is a resident of Queens NY and has no connection to Boro
Park.
The NYPD Shomrim Society is a Fraternal Police Organization whose
mission is the benefit of Police Officers, not as their name may imply ''the
protectors of the community.''
The picture of Jason S. Margolis
His e-mail address president@nypdshomrim.org
Jason S. Margolis is the 2006 president of the NYPD Shomrim Society, and does not represent the Shomrim of Boro Park, (it is a organization with a bunch of idiots) the legal name of the Shomrim or Boro Park is Brooklyn South safety patrol.
Jason S. Margolis hates us and he is trying to do everything to destroy the Shomrim of Boro Park.
Jason S. Margolis when is your yearly party with all the police officers going to be, didn't they threaten you if you don't talk they will not come to your party.
Jason S. Margolis shame on Boro Park, shame on you you, you don't even live in this area who are you to talk
Jason S. Margolis you should know when Joseph Esposito said F***Jews, he meant you to
Jason Margolis
In the end of the New York Post article you said as follow
The Shomrim Society stands 100 percent behind the actions of the police in regard to the Borough Park riot, and backs Chief Esposito completely. We know the accusations against him are totally without merit. And we know that behavior like last week's riot is unacceptable - and shameful - no matter what the circumstances or the ethnic makeup of those involved.
I wonder if the reason you said that is because as you said earlier in that article
Chief Esposito has gone out of his way to help out Jewish cops in need both professionally and personally
Thank you I know he helps you and Jewish cops personally, but what is with us, people from the community we also need help
You are selfish as selfish it comes, because you get favors from them you are willing to throw us and then say shame people of Boro Park
You are surrounded with full of corruption, and I am proud to say shame to Jason Margolis
Part of the article in the New York Post from corrupted Jason Margolis is
Chief Esposito has gone out of his way to help out Jewish cops in need both professionally and personally. He has attended more Shomrim events than many of our members, and Shomrim has honored him for his help and dedication to the Jewish members of the NYPD.
That's it he comes to your parties and did you personal favorites, shame on you how would you not be embarrassed to say this in public, such politicians like you have to go, because that's only what you care parties personal favorites, and then be willing to sell us in public like the worst people
Esposito had the courage to stand up and apologize for what he said at the heat of the moment.
Simcha Felder, who called his own brethren "HOOLIGANS" should really be ashamed of himself.
Are you so offended by a GOY using vulgar vocabulary?
What do you expect when you refer to us like that?
Furthermore Esposito who's job it it to enforce law & order said he want the *** Jews outa here.
But Felder a so called Ben Torah had to take it a step further and say"
"They (the Jews) should be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law''
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Where is Felder's Apology to the community?
Until then if you see him simply tell him ''SHAME ON YOU''
Down with Felder
שמחה לארצנו.........
we call for early elections
וצריך עיון אם יש לו דין רודףּּּּּּּ
"why was Simcha Felder kicked out of the 66th Pct last night and who did it? "
Because he didn't do anything BEFORE to prevent this from happening... That is why...
We didn't ask him to go to 66 pct last night. All we want from him is to work just a little bit...